2nd of June 2006, Lithuania, Baltic Cup '06 - Lithuania

Formula Windsurfing Neil Pryde Baltic Cup 2006 Lithuania

by Gintas Lapenas - Windsurfing club “Vejas galvoje”
Formula Windsurfing Neil Pryde Baltic Cup 2005 [Lithuania] regatta was held on May 26th-28th in Nida.

Event was organized by windsurfing club “Vejas galvoje”, extreme sports centre “X-pro” and Neringa City Municipality. The event has been sponsored by NEW VISION, AUTOPLIUS, RASA, SELITA, SERFAS, GEOSINTETIKA, UTENOS TRIKOTAZAS.

Nida is located in KurĹĄių Nerija (Curonian Spit) 50 km from Klaipeda. Nida is famous as the most picturesque sea resort of Lithuania, recognized by UNESCO as national heritage. Big dunes, significant temperature differences between the cold Baltic Sea waters and shallow warm Curonian Lagoon creates constant winds. The water temperature was 15 degrees, air temperature 13-18 Celsius degrees. Wind conditions varied 10-14m/s the first day and 4-5m/s the second day. On Saturday 4 races were sailed, Sunday - 2 races and the 3rd race was abandoned soon after the start due to lack of wind.



Windsurfers from all three Baltic countries and Poland came to participate in the competition this year: 20 from Estonia, 14 from Latvia, 6 from Poland and 21 from Lithuania, 53 in total.



Erno Kaasik (Estonia) has won the Formula Baltic Cup Lithuania Champion title, Martin Ervin (Estonia) took the second place, the third prize went to Juhan Peedimaa (Estonia). Also Martin Ervin (Estonia) has won the Formula Baltic Cup Lithuania Masters Champion title.



Robert Baldyga (Poland) has become the Formula Baltic Cup Lithuania Youth [U20] Champion, Maciek Rutkowski (Poland) – the Formula Baltic Cup Lithuania Junior [U17] Champion.



GPS data, photos and other information are stored and currently available at:
photogallery:
http://server.lukrecija.lt/~gintas/paveiksliukai/20060527-28BCNida/
http://www.extreme-sports.lt/pages/burlentes/media.php?g2_itemId=3268
GPS data:
http://www.bures.lt/gps/bc06/nida/saturday.html

The second Formula Windsurfing Baltic Cup 2006 event will be held in Pavilosta, Latvia, on June 23th -25th, third – in Eura, Finland on July 7th – 9th, and the last, fourth one – in Tallinn, Estonia on August 18th -20th.

Baltic Cup Windsurfing Cup has been held annually since 1999. Up to 250-300 windsurfers take participation. The Baltic Cup is a single discipline - Formula Windsurfing - regatta.





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ervin | 5th September 2006 (13:01:36)

good

H19 | 7th September 2006 (11:29:22)

hey babe,
Zet m op!!!!!!!!!!
xx

Rui | 7th September 2006 (12:03:54)

Portugal will have the Formula World Champion in Lightweights (Miguel Martinho) and in Masters (Bruno Bertholo)...Miguel, Bruno - Keep Pushing!!!!

Anonym | 7th September 2006 (14:34:03)

how about jimmy diaz isnt he a master?

g | 7th September 2006 (15:16:00)

he's a grand master

Anonym | 7th September 2006 (15:24:19)

Just wanted to say that the 1st 2 races today were the shitest races that I have ever seen. We stared in no wind at all!!!!!!!!!!!! I have decided together with Gonzalo to leave this event and go home tomorrow. We traind very hard for this event and in the end we have Bruno on the boat starting in the most shit condtions ever.
We want to make a point that this has to change! we had a no wind Europen championship super light winds in Polad with some races that should not be valid, and now a fucked up world championship!!!!!!! many of my friends are stoping formula becocse of this reson. Today in the AGM meating Bruno still was saying that he would do the same thing again so there was no point for us to stay we have a flight tommorow.
I am a light wind sailor I came 2nd in Poland and 1st in Silavaplana that is one of the lightest wind places in the world and been 3rd to the top mark in both races today but just couldent keep planing
If you wanted to come to Korea and didnt make it you are super lucky ITS SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Arnon Dagan ISR-1

Anonym | 7th September 2006 (15:50:10)

I believe these words from an established racer like Arnon. How can these type of events keep happening?

Anonym | 7th September 2006 (16:56:47)

Why dont you guys make races in Fortaleza-Brasil?We can plan to do as many races as you want.At any time of the day,and make every one happy for sure.

Anonym | 7th September 2006 (17:03:43)

I heard that Arnon quit in Europeans RSX and now again in Formula Worlds. Is there a pattern?
Top 10 has only 2 light weights so it can not be so bad?

Anonym | 7th September 2006 (17:16:37)

us windsurfing nationals will be in san franciso next summer- anybody who has raced there knows its windy- 20-30k on a regular basis in July. No complaints- come and race formula and slalom!

Anonym | 7th September 2006 (17:33:23)

When you have to pump in the formula worlds like you pump in rsx event its beter to quit.

Anonym | 7th September 2006 (17:34:00)

Hey, folks. I second the comment for the US Nationals in San Francisco next year, 2007. The great part about the City is, 1. WIND & 2. WIND 3. In the case that there is no wind-SF is a huge historical City; great vacation place. stop here, race & then go to Maui before you go home. See you all there. Keep tabs on this site: www.uswindsurfing.org

Do IT | 7th September 2006 (18:04:37)

Che MANU se te ve relajada en la foto!!!

Anonym | 7th September 2006 (19:38:41)

il est navrant de voir des coureurs quitter un championnat, il est où l'esprit sportif?

al | 7th September 2006 (20:07:25)

Bruno WHY make a joke out of this event looks to be very well organised and are doing a great job. It is a shame that again your decisions upset even more organisers and sailors, Sorry Korea that Forula windsurfing have not learnt that bruno is no good at reading the wind.. never was....

Joe | 7th September 2006 (20:54:43)

I'd really like to come,surf and see SF next year and then go to Maui.My holiday will start on 20 July.Would you guys tell me the right date of the event,please?Is it possible to borrow good stuff for racing?If yes,where?Any web site address for it?
Another question concerns the Maui race series.Do you have any idea about 2007 dates?
Thank you all.

Pieter Bijl | 7th September 2006 (21:10:19)

Whow, reading the report from Dennis is pretty depressing, happy I'm not there struggeling. Sounds like it is hell on a bad day.

Any way, I just want to wish you guys some good conditions so the best sailor overall can win. Pretty impressed with Antoine being up there with his weight. Dennis keep up the good spirit.

Later Pieter

Pieter Bijl | 7th September 2006 (21:10:55)

Whow, reading the report from Dennis is pretty depressing, happy I'm not there struggeling. Sounds like it is hell on a bad day.

Any way, I just want to wish you guys some good conditions so the best sailor overall can win. Pretty impressed with Antoine being up there with his weight. Dennis keep up the good spirit.

Later Pieter

Pieter Bijl | 7th September 2006 (21:11:03)

Whow, reading the report from Dennis is pretty depressing, happy I'm not there struggeling. Sounds like it is hell on a bad day.

Any way, I just want to wish you guys some good conditions so the best sailor overall can win. Pretty impressed with Antoine being up there with his weight. Dennis keep up the good spirit.

Later Pieter

Pieter Bijl | 7th September 2006 (21:11:11)

Whow, reading the report from Dennis is pretty depressing, happy I'm not there struggeling. Sounds like it is hell on a bad day.

Any way, I just want to wish you guys some good conditions so the best sailor overall can win. Pretty impressed with Antoine being up there with his weight. Dennis keep up the good spirit.

Later Pieter

al | 7th September 2006 (22:11:51)

why are the race reports so crap actually where are the race reports what do the sailors get for there money

Pieter Bijl | 7th September 2006 (23:59:32)

Whow, reading the report from Dennis is pretty depressing, happy I'm not there struggeling. Sounds like it is hell on a bad day.

Any way, I just want to wish you guys some good conditions so the best sailor overall can win. Pretty impressed with Antoine being up there with his weight. Dennis keep up the good spirit.

Later Pieter

Pieter Bijl | 7th September 2006 (23:59:55)

Whow, reading the report from Dennis is pretty depressing, happy I'm not there struggeling. Sounds like it is hell on a bad day.

Any way, I just want to wish you guys some good conditions so the best sailor overall can win. Pretty impressed with Antoine being up there with his weight. Dennis keep up the good spirit.

Later Pieter

Pieter Bijl | 8th September 2006 (00:00:01)

Whow, reading the report from Dennis is pretty depressing, happy I'm not there struggeling. Sounds like it is hell on a bad day.

Any way, I just want to wish you guys some good conditions so the best sailor overall can win. Pretty impressed with Antoine being up there with his weight. Dennis keep up the good spirit.

Later Pieter

Pieter Bijl | 8th September 2006 (00:00:06)

Whow, reading the report from Dennis is pretty depressing, happy I'm not there struggeling. Sounds like it is hell on a bad day.

Any way, I just want to wish you guys some good conditions so the best sailor overall can win. Pretty impressed with Antoine being up there with his weight. Dennis keep up the good spirit.

Later Pieter

Pieter Bijl | 8th September 2006 (00:00:17)

Whow, reading the report from Dennis is pretty depressing, happy I'm not there struggeling. Sounds like it is hell on a bad day.

Any way, I just want to wish you guys some good conditions so the best sailor overall can win. Pretty impressed with Antoine being up there with his weight. Dennis keep up the good spirit.

Later Pieter

k | 8th September 2006 (03:18:59)

i think its better for the class if we do not discuss negative comments on the forum. keep it to yourself and discuss it with those that make a difference. telling everyone about your problems doesnt help the class in attracting new people. we have to work to make sure this doesnt happen, but giving ourselves bad press, is remembered, better than the good press. lets think before we speak.

Anonym | 8th September 2006 (03:36:30)

It's a forum to discuss windsurfing, good or bad.

Nathan | 8th September 2006 (03:38:37)

forgot to add name

It's a forum to discuss windsurfing, good or bad.

Leave it to Public Relations to put a good spin on publicity. They are paid to do it.

kj | 8th September 2006 (04:17:58)

Hi, guys.. Did you noticed who is in front of this event? Steve - World Champion, Ross - European Champon, Julien - Youth World Champion, Michael - Youth World Champion, Antoine - World Champion... If you want to be a CHAMPION you have to learn how to race in any wind conditions... In strong wind any shic can fly... even (Red)Bull shit...

Anonym | 8th September 2006 (05:41:09)

I think it is discraceful that top riders such as Arnon and Gonzallo are quitting after the 2nd race. This sends the wrong message to young sailors to just give up if they have a bad result early. A true champion will fight to the finish and not give up no matter what the conditions or circumstances. This is a World title after all, let the best man win!

R | 8th September 2006 (05:44:26)

The conditions look poor and for sure frustrating to race in bad conditions, but the real pro windsurfers show time and again why they are the best.
Leaving an event in disgust even though there is a chance of better conditions and further discards is hardly the mentality of a true pro and of poor service to their sponsers.

JW | 8th September 2006 (09:03:53)

Why are we commenting here instead of under the event of the world champioship? Isn't that working? Seems that these posts are all misplaced?

In response to all above, I think I understand the feeling and dissapointment of guys like Arnon Gonzalo and Keith. They have trained like hell to be prepared and because of reasons they can not influence (like really light conditions) they are very dissapointed with their results.

They are very great and honourable (misspelling) guys with really positive race attitudes so when they now decide to go home it is my opinion that we should respect that. Maybey it would have not been my choice but I fully can understand their choice. So leave it at that.

For Antoine, Steve and all the other topguys it is again remarkable that they are in front of the pack again. One way or the other they manage to be at the windy side of the conditions all the time. But they will not be happy as well. Maybe they are with their results but with topguys as Arnon and Gonzalo leaving it is not a race anymore where the winner will stand out without controversy. Just a pitty for all participants, organisers sponsors etc.

Last but not least I wonder if the topguys use 12. or 12.5? I read the report of Sean (AUS 120) who was at the starting line with 10.7 while I also read that Antoine uses 12.5? Maybe in these specific circumstances you need the biggest you can get your hands on and are able to race then? And the Gaastra sails seem to be giving a little more push in thes conditions then the other sails? Is here a area where there needs to be development on the gear? Maybe the Appollo would have done great :) ?

Hope for some good conditions for the rest of the worlds so that some guys can show what potential they have. Dennis (NED 13) on top would be great

SeanAUS120 | 8th September 2006 (09:29:18)

Its hard to know whether its the sail sizes themselves that are helping. I'm getting punished on 10.7 but Julien Quentel and Jesper Vesterstrom are 3rd and 6th with 10.7m, so I don't think just getting a 12.0 is the answer...

I tested the RS6 11.6m earlier this year and found I couldn't get the same speed as my 10.7 even in super light conditions... But JW you raise an interesting point about manufacturer development of gear. The boards (mainly starboard) are getting wider and wider in the tails (maybe that's why a 75cm fin was voted on at the AGM) every year so maybe we need bigger sails next year to power them... the days of the 12.5 are far from over I think.

R | 8th September 2006 (09:38:42)

Sean, good comment. As you say in your reports there is more to just sail size as`Antoine always proves to be a contender in any wind.
Maybe bigger sails are not the answer, but more powerful for any given size is a better target for the sail designers. The heavy weight of some of these rigs is certainly not helping getting a board planning in marginal wind.

Adri | 8th September 2006 (09:40:00)

The more wind the more fair the results. But what if there's no wind?

This discussion has been the same for many years.
10 years ago we would never send sailors out in these conditions but with formula they can. The last 2 years we have seen a development where the boards and sails need slightly more wind to get planing. Sails where getting smaller (execpt for Antoine) and it was bound to happen someday... If Arnon would be on a board with larger planing surface he would be planing but with only 1 board he would for sure not be winning in normal conditions.

We should not push the windlimit any further. Bruno, abandon those races and leave the pumping to RSX class. ;-)

Adri | 8th September 2006 (09:43:04)

Anybody knows why Micah and Kevin are not there?

k | 8th September 2006 (09:43:52)

thanks Nathan for your contribution to the forum, but you need to think about the people who are interested in joining the class of FW, they see the reports, disrespecting our racing, (which should be discussed at a hearing, not on a forum. this is not a good image for the sport. so lets think about it before opening mouths!!!

Gipsy | 8th September 2006 (09:45:37)

For me Gaastra is not better than Pryde in light wind , the difference come from the guys weight . The 4 top men are " light " , that prouve for me Antoine is really a great guy : with his weight it s a big performance to be in the top 5 .

k | 8th September 2006 (09:52:33)

sail size has alot to do with it, but i think sail shape is even more important. The rules are in place for a reason. minimum wind is 7 knots. Neilpryde have designed the RS6 sails with alot of luff curve, better for strong winds, not lightwind performance. the gaastras have less luff curve and have a softer feel, better for the minimum winds that we sometimes race in. so the rules are there, we race with the rules. the manufactutrers need to produce sails to conform to the rules. so Neilpryde, get your act together! we race in 7 knots, its been proved at 3 events this year already. the gaastra boys cope with it, because there sails are designed and tuned to cope with the minimum wind. every year the sails have more and more luff curve and become stiffer. great for constant winds above the mimimum. but a problem in the winds for Korea.

k | 8th September 2006 (09:59:44)

i think height is a bigger issue than weight in winds like this. if you are tall you can stand up more and sheet in more efficiently, especially with a bigger sail. if your shorter, then u can only lean out, this is less efficient in this wind. ask all the shorter guys!!
I can tell you the gaastras are better in these conditions. they are softer, they pull, you have more power.
also, the top sailors at this contest are not light. i think youll find around 80% of the top 10 are heavy.

Joe | 8th September 2006 (10:30:17)

Regarding question about Gaastra and Pryde performance in light wind i guess it depends too much about sail softness as k states.When i gave a test to Vapor I was scared when pushed downwind with all the leech pumping.Totally different from Pryde (stiffer and loocked in).BUT,in light condition Gaastra pays.I would say also that top guys probably doesn't use common masts as fins and are better trimmer all around(so Antoine could sail a prot mast,really don't know).It could be the answer to light wind-heavy weight good position in the course (of course we all know about Antoine strong and infinite talent).
When I listen that you vote for 75 fin I'm happy for having to option to point better in light and the dream to plane earlier but I'm not sure light weight sailor will gain too much from this.More fin means more power.).So 9,8 will be rare even for light people if they want be competitive.So Formula should stop when 20 kns....
And,how long does it keep to develope good fins performing in 6 kns and in 20?More money to spent for all of us.
What about sail sizes?When light everybody needs 12 or more....
Please,think about real world people.

Joe | 8th September 2006 (10:31:23)

I'd really like to come,surf and see SF next year and then go to Maui.My holiday will start on 20 July.Would you guys tell me the right date of the 2007 US Nationals event,please?Is it possible to borrow good stuff for racing it?If yes,where?Any web site address for it?
Another question concerns the Maui race series.Do you have any idea about 2007 dates?
Thank you all.

k | 8th September 2006 (11:09:14)

I agree what you say about the maximum wind in formula, if we are to try to produce and develop lighter and earlier planing equipment, then its difficult to make the equipment perform in the strong winds also, but maybe next years Appollo will handle ok!? who knows. with regards to the 75 fin. A rule should, and probably will be brought in to minimise costs of more fins. this will be decided over the next year whilst the appollo is being tested. the bigger board and bigger fin simply is the next step to earlier planing, if the fin is too big, you can go smaller, who says you need a 75, Starboard simply state that the board can handle one. the board can handle a 12.5 but not everyone uses a 12.5. each sailor is different. I am happy that Starboard have taken the initative, time and effort to produce a board with the aim to plane in lighter and lighter winds. i hope that with some more work, this type of light wind formula board can be put forward as an olympic board. that is what we want.

al | 8th September 2006 (11:09:46)

if the fin size has changed it is the most ridiculas rule ever, all those 70's out there can be binned how many fins have been made? all are worthless as in all winds the bigger heavier guys will always use 75 more pressure on back and legs which mean big legs strong backs will go better, you guys who voted for this are idiots and will kill the sport of formula..... shame on you all...arnon looks like he registered 66 fins and 10.7 the limit is 12.5 maybe testing 10.7 is fast upwind alone but in a race with shitty wind around 10.7 struggles downwind. Bad preperation on there part. Ross and steve are loving it 12.0 rocks from Gaastra.

q | 8th September 2006 (11:23:59)

The 75 fin was not voted, so it is still the same, max 70cm

ceri | 8th September 2006 (14:15:26)

H, I am preparing an agm report now ; please do not speculate , wait for the facts .

Dave K | 8th September 2006 (16:06:00)

Joe and anyone else who wants WIND!

The US Windsurfing Nationals will be in San Francisco. No need for 12.5's there, (Antoine you may want yours...) The dates are Wednesday through Sunday August 8-12. The host club is the Saint Francis YC. They are very experienced with running formula and other racing. They seldom if ever have to worry about wind minimums. There is some talk about having an event the weekend before in Hood River. Also the US Nationals would make a great North American Championship and add to the draw.

I hope it all works out. If so I'll probably rent a big U haul truck and drive it from HR to SFO with lots of gear from as many out of the country folks as possible. The the others can rent comfortable cars and drive in groups....

Sounds nice eh?

Dave


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